Thanx HotRod, We've been fightin with this thing most of the morning, still not sure how we got it this far. We used the step by step you gave to another member that was having problems and tried to get the pics to load right on the post, but something went wrong somewhere. Later I will try your sugjestion and try to figure out where I'm going wrong. Both carts were torn all the way down and rebuilt. Thats rattle can paint on both, the Almond color one is Rustoleum appliance epoxy which I found to be about as close to automotive paint as you can get. It has a hard smooth finish, but only comes in black, white or almond. Thanx again.....Bob