huh,you maybe right.the baystate thing is what it is. b.g.w are who they are. you can't really tell me, that you don't see a diffence between cartaholic and b.g.w! hotrod straight forward. do you think maybe we are just testing the water to see who may be able to help us out. maybe to some people maintaining 1 or 2 carts they feel like a golf cart wizard we have them come thru my door daily,to BCGC maintaining our own 5 carts, fleet of 20 rentals and a campground with over 300 site. sometimes it nice to ask somone else for their opinion. we see you posted the day you joined so maybe you don't know to much about the golfcart world,but in our golf cart world the renters want the rentals, the seasonals want their carts for the weekend and vacation weeks and O ya the wifes and kids are you kidding me, if their carts are not up and running. you better have someone like hot rod on speed dial. so are you going to spend the day figuring the problem out on one cart while the others line up outside the door?or are you going to post and hope hotrodcarts steps up to help you out.we need to fix, order,move carts,and explain over and over the problems the customers have. this is the differance between the 2. cartaholics forum and the tech team @ bu is talked about around our shop all day long. we only know a handfull of people that can point you in the right direction when you hit a wall. are hats off to them THANK YOU. bcgc is a group of people with golf carts.i'm just trying to keep everyone going.