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gumbiegumbie

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Tryin to fix my 91 gas cart. It sit up for the winter and when i tried to start it it smokes real bad, and gas runs out the front of the carb. I thought the carb. was dirty, mainly the needle and seat, so i took it apart, cleaned everything, check the float for holes and adjustment with the same results. Got tired of messing with it so I just got a new carb and put on it, SAME RESULTS! started reading around some and heres what ive done so far. Just changed the oil and its not overfull. replaced all the fuel lines and filter. it has good compression, and it is firing good and new plug. If you hold it to the floor it will run about half throttle real bad and smoke something terrible. wont get any rpms and wont idle at all. I dont want to keep guessing and replacing parts i dont need. what would be the right thing to look at? Thanks in advance for any help. Its a 01 club carb with im told a kawasaki engine. And if you take the fuel line off the pump end and hold it up high all the gas in the line will drain and run out the front of the carb. like the float just refuses to shut off the flow of gas. I really dont get it?
 
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gumbiegumbie

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Took pump apart, everything is clean diaphram is pliable and doesnt appear to have any holes. put back together and put carb line in a clear bottle and turned motor over and it pumps gas pretty quick and steady. The plug is new and the gas was completely drained and tank rinsed out with new gas and then refilled with new gas.

What about the part where I can just hold the fuel line up and all the gas in the line will drain through the carburetor with only the pressure of gravity, like the needle just wont shut off, and I have it adjusted a little shallow just to be sure it wasnt out of adjustment the other way?
 
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gumbiegumbie

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i dont know what to do. someone else told me they thought a plastic gear of some kind had lost a tooth and it was out of time but I dont see what that has to do with the fuel side of things and assuming they meant cam/crank timing and not ignition timing, I would think your compression would suffer if the cam/crank timing was off? The float is set a little shallow just to be sure it seats the needle before any chance of overflowing the bowl yet it still runs fuel out the front of the carburetor. I really dont know what to try next?
 
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gumbiegumbie

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any suggestions anyone? i have never been so aggrivated with a little engine in my life and i think that aggrivation is whats causing me to overlook something otherwise obvious. Just to recap, the carburetor is brand new and the float has been checked and is set a little shallow just in case, the fuel pump has been cleaned and diaphram is ok, the fuel tank has been cleaned out and filled with fresh gas, all the fuel lines and filter replaced, fresh oil change and its not overfull, new spark plug and its firing very strong. Problem is cart will only run if you hold the gas at full throttle and even then it spits and sputters at about half rpm's while smoking something terrible and running gas out the front of the carburetor. I dont really understand why the float wont turn the fuel off and I dont know why the engine won't run any better? Please help! I dont know what else to try and guessing at everthing unsuccessfully is getting expensive!
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HotRodCarts

HotRodCarts

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Does the carb leak when the engine isn't running? If the carb is dumping over the needle and seat must be leaking. Is the new carb OEM or aftermarket? Some of the aftermarket carbs are junk.
 
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gumbiegumbie

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the carb came from ebay, if you click this link, its the exact one i have from the person i got it from. http://cgi.ebay.com/1984-91-Carburetor-Car...=item35b06f3c0c I dont know about the oem or aftermarket part. it was in a plain brown box with no paperwork. The carb does leak even if the motor isnt running. you can pull the fuel line between the pump and carb loose on the pump end and hold it up and the gas in the line will drain through the carb and run out the front of the carb. The needle looks good, the tip is sharp and the edges look smooth and the seat looks brand new, everything is squeaky clean, no trash. the float closes the needle about 1/4" before it comes up to level with the body of the carburetor so it should be a little shallow if anything. I really dont understand what I'm doing wrong. Its almost embarresing that I cant figure this out?
 
HotRodCarts

HotRodCarts

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I'd contact the ebay seller and et them know about the leaking issue. It sounds to me like you got a bad carburetor.
 
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gumbiegumbie

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well, ive put in a message to the ebay seller to see it they will swap me another carb. I dont think its gonna change anything but I really dont know what else to do. Its obviously over fueling and I agree that the needle and seat are the culprits in the gas flow not shutting off when the bowl gets full. Its just a strange coincidence that the new carburetor is doing the same exact thing as the old one. Thats my luck though, if there was one bad carb. on the shelf that would be the one that they grab to fill my order. When I get the second new one on there I will post the results! gonna keep my fingers crossed.
 
HotRodCarts

HotRodCarts

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Like I said a lot of the aftermarket carbs are junk so it won't surprise me if thats your problem. Don't be shocked if the replacement does the same thing.
 
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dirtman

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I have an 84 cc gas cart and had a similar problem in that it was blowing gas thru the exhaust and filling the oil pan. Not to say this is your problem but I had to take the carb completely off, turn it upside down and adjust the tangs on the float so it would sit 1/4"-5/16" from the base of the bowl. This did the trick. Make sure you adjust the tang that sits on top of the needle...not the the arm that holds the float on. A 7 year difference in carts but maybe the same problem. Hope it helps.
 
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chachi44089

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If you hold he carb in your hand upside down "the bowl on top", you should not be able to blow air into the fuel inlet if the needle is seating. The weight of the float will close the needle. If you can blow air in it, at least you know the problem is in the needle, seat, float assembly. Mine was doing what your was doing, but it was a piece of something on the needle seat. Yours may have a flaw or something wrong with the needle or seat. The little clip thing that holds the needle on the float is a bit tricky to get on right too, if its on wrong it seems to hold the needle at the wrong angle or level to be able to seat..Hope any of this can help.. Keep us posted..
 
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gumbiegumbie

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well, got the second replacement carburetor and it does the same thing the orginal and the first replacement carburetor does. Cart runs terrible, no rpms, fuel smokes the whole shop up, and most of all pours gas out the front of the carburetor. I'm done with it. Cart is a club car with the kawasaki engine I think mid 90's it has just had the oil changed, brand new battery and a brand new carburetor (( if you can make it work )) If anyone in the northeast arkansas area wants it I'll take 900 for it. If youre familiar with these and know what youre doing, I'm sure its an easy fix. Probably turn out being something stupid that I'm overlooking. I dont ever want to work on a golf cart again as long as I live!! I see most ones in this condition running are going for around 1500 so 900 with all the new parts should be fair. The tires and seat and all that are in good shape. No tears in the seat. The roof is in good shape. It has a windshield but one of the brackets it snaps on the roof post is missing, we never ran it with the windshield anyway. If anyone wants it, call me between 8am and 9pm anyday of the week at 870-362-0013 Thanks to all for all the help! I'm gonna stick to working on cars and trucks.
 
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lcc400

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disconnect vent tube from carbureator and clean it it is plugged more than likely 2 minutes it should solve the problem
 
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