Battery De-sulfators

Jeff104

Cartaholic
it seems this tech is at least 3 yrs old now
i found a utube with a guy whose audience seems to trust and enjoy his posts
he demonstrated one and showed that it would fix de-sulfation
but of course not plate short or open problems

so the question is does anyone have any experience with this ?
 
mean while i have read that 3rd world battery reclaimers do anything from
put a 120V light bulb in series with an extension cord then connect to a 12V and let it bubble for a while
or
dump the acid in a bucket
refill with water and put a polident denture cleaning tablet in each cell for over night
then dump that , flush thoroughly , replace the acid

supposedly they both worked
 
@Notsoslim what voltage does your load tester take a 6V L.A. down to while testing ?
i have one the same as yours
all of my old batteries go down to 5.5V loaded , 6.3V unloaded
each 12V pair goes down to 9.9V

my truck battery goes down to 9.9V
(i think it is weak , sometimes it is slow on starting)
 
my truck battery goes down to 9.9V
(i think it is weak , sometimes it is slow on starting)
Your truck battery is only made to start. Yes it drops but it recovers quickly after short bursts of load versus long periods of high amp draw. I have not hooked my tester to a 6 volt battery. My good 12 volt trojans dropped to 11 and change under load. The bad 12 volt trojan dropped off the charts and wouldn't even power the LED display under load.
 
Jeff i have tried desulfators, they only work if you have sulfide crystals on the plates and they take a long time to dissolve them. It won't bring plates back to life if they were exposed to air or material has fallen off plates from age. They also run the batteries down so you have to watch them and charge them more frequently. I have never tried chemicals but i do know if you dump the acid and water out the plates become damaged from air .
 
Jeff i have tried desulfators, they only work if you have sulfide crystals on the plates and they take a long time to dissolve them. It won't bring plates back to life if they were exposed to air or material has fallen off plates from age. They also run the batteries down so you have to watch them and charge them more frequently. I have never tried chemicals but i do know if you dump the acid and water out the plates become damaged from air .
the 6x6V 185AH batteries are aug 22 put in service about dec 22 i bought the cart with batteries in mar 24
they were likely undercharged for most of a year because of poor connections in the charging system which i corrected
later on i found they were still undercharging and replaced the power wise charger control board
which (unknown to me until later) over charged them for a cpl months before i replaced them with Li
their capacity and performance began to drop suddenly about 3 weeks before i replaced them
the consensus was that they had sulfated

the desulfator i am using will also recharge after the desulf cycle
the resting voltage is always 6.3V after the charge cycle

the load tester i am using shows about 0.2 ohms for the load
the math says that should be about 31.5 amps during test for a 6V battery or 63.5 amps for a 12V

i have run the desulf cycle about 3 times per battery pair (it only works on 12V)
i have the batteries arranged so that each weak one is in a pair with a strong one

i can still tell the difference while testing each single 6V thru the whole 36V pack

do you think they may eventually recover ?
or am i wasting time ?
i was hoping to sell the pack as "used" at about 1/2 to 1/3 price
 
over charged them for a cpl months before i replaced them with Li
their capacity and performance began to drop suddenly about 3 weeks before i replaced them
the consensus was that they had sulfated
Sulfation is caused from under charging, over charging will just cook the batteries no fixing that
do you think they may eventually recover ?
No
or am i wasting time ?
Yes
 
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